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    Quote Originally Posted by chew View Post
    First up I find it interesting that someone can interpret "It stops with me" as an insinuation of guilt?

    As for familiar people, drinking to access and being a bit wary, females quite often are wary in familiar places with familiar people because "boys will be boys".

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    I'm all for sticking up for and protecting my child. But I don't think aggressively shouting profanities at a 7-8 year old is a particularly healthy solution.

    Different scenario if an adult or large teen is the aggressor; but if you have to go postal on a child to make your point then there are some issues there.

    Back on topic: David Leyonhjelm bullys and makes derogatory sexual comments to a female senator (don't care what you think of SHY, it's still not on) in a fucking house of goverment - and is not censured and refuses to apologise. AND Ex footballer Hall makes some pretty disgusting sexual comments on air about a woman undergoing an obstetric procedure (at least he got canned) and all the other guys in the booth laughed along.

    Yeah, this shit NEVER happens anymore, does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusaSteve View Post
    I wish this thread had!...with the OP!!
    Difference: No-one is FORCING you to read it.
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    seems we are getting to the root cause of this.....
    bullies
    have a need to enforce their way...their law...onto people who don't want to be a part of it
    Bullies
    Gain advantage by the use of fear responses in their victims.
    Bullies
    Invade the space of people going about their business
    Bullies
    Like to think they are right and have the right to control others
    And when the force exceeds the ability of the victim to cope, the abuser can't turn off and sometimes it ends in murder.....
    You don't need to be a killer to kill.
    does it...?
    stop here.
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    Maybe [ going back to the OP ], we need to realise that the type of young [ and older men ] who rape/kill whatever, were once the little kids who bully/abuse whatever now.

    How many times do we read about a rape/murder/mass shooting and it's always looking back at the bad guys life and reading he was a "loner/misfit/bully, poor at socializing" even at a young age. Just like the little shit that bowled over my daughter. We need to stop lavishing attention on the average or the high achievers, they'll be just fine, and look out for little Johnny who doesn't seem to be like all the other kids, and HELP them.

    Ask my now grown up daughter about going to the nightclub or whatever on a Saturday night? Not a chance, full of angry/violent drunks who hurl vile abuse because she wont have a drink or whatever, and there will be a small percentage in that crowd of guys who will go one step too far and do something terrible.

    Call it social engineering or whatever, but we need to work much harder and identify and help these youngsters, much easier and cheaper to help them at 7 than fix broken men at 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidf View Post
    Your method? I'm all ears.

    And apply this method directly after witnessing your daughter smashed to the ground from behind by a piece of shit.

    Do you approach said shit and say " well, that wasn't nice, do you want to talk about your feelings right now, like some cake maybe? "

    That piece of shit needed educating, right there and then, and he got it. Otherwise it's like punishing your dog when you get home and find the couch chewed up. The dog doesn't understand why he's being yelled at or kicked.

    Can't belt the kid, but he was made very aware of his error, at the moment he made it, I believe the lesson got through.



    One thing I hate is "hindsight". People love to give you the "calm and rational" answer to an issue, never what their response/answer is at the moment in time when stuff actually occurs. I'm a dad. My child just got hurt. I responded as I saw fit and don't regret it for a millionth of a second.
    There is no over riding "method" as every situation is different.

    All I was saying is that what you did may not have had the effect you believe, he may have been thinking about stabbing you in the face while you bawled him out.

    I just beg to differ that you educated the "piece of shit", mostly what you did was react in a way that made you feel better about what happened as a protective parent.
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    The response is the sort of crazy social reaction that helps create monsters.

    yes? no? discuss...

    where is that guy with the 848 when you need him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skut View Post
    I'm all for sticking up for and protecting my child. But I don't think aggressively shouting profanities at a 7-8 year old is a particularly healthy solution.

    Different scenario if an adult or large teen is the aggressor; but if you have to go postal on a child to make your point then there are some issues there.

    Back on topic: David Leyonhjelm bullys and makes derogatory sexual comments to a female senator (don't care what you think of SHY, it's still not on) in a fucking house of goverment - and is not censured and refuses to apologise. AND Ex footballer Hall makes some pretty disgusting sexual comments on air about a woman undergoing an obstetric procedure (at least he got canned) and all the other guys in the booth laughed along.

    Yeah, this shit NEVER happens anymore, does it?

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    Difference: No-one is FORCING you to read it.
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    I still carry a grudge for the long dead 6th grade teacher that had me sit in a storeroom for three days till I made a chicken noise..

    I went back to see him when I was in yr 11 at a high school nearby...he clearly didn't know who I was....

    The grudge has hurt only me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusaSteve View Post
    Stop bullying me!..
    Really?

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    nah you're just a cock
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZAZL View Post
    The response is the sort of crazy social reaction that helps create monsters.

    yes? no? discuss...

    where is that guy with the 848 when you need him.
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    A note for CM's. Don't be fucking girls. You can pass anything. Just fuckin' "Nail It". Take ya panties off you faggots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwillia View Post
    nah you're just a cock
    if you can't argue with someone intelligently, don't argue at all..
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    A note for CM's. Don't be fucking girls. You can pass anything. Just fuckin' "Nail It". Take ya panties off you faggots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GsxInShed View Post
    I still carry a grudge for the long dead 6th grade teacher that had me sit in a storeroom for three days till I made a chicken noise..

    I went back to see him when I was in yr 11 at a high school nearby...he clearly didn't know who I was....

    The grudge has hurt only me.

    It is said...'people think about you a lot less than you think they do.'
    The difference is that the teacher was the aggressor and you were the victim.
    There is a problem that the aggressor is rarely punished but can cause serious emotional stress on the victim.

    I will share this interesting statement to think about ("Homo Deus" by Yuval Noah Harari):

    "For the first time in history, more people die today from eating too much than from eating too little;
    more people die from old age than from infectious diseases;
    and, more people commit suicide than are killed by soldiers, terrorists and criminals combined."


    Taken into context, far more should be spent on curbing aggressors very early in life.
    Life is NOT a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: "Wahoo!! What a ride!"
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    Started a new job a couple weeks back. There's about 100 electricians on site, majority of them older men (50+). There's several young women working in the crews too.

    A couple of the women walk past our bus the other day and one of the blokes (he'd be nearly 60 years old) in our crew yells out, 'HEY, WHAT DO YA RECKON BOYS? TAKE EM INTO THE PINE PLANTATION AND RAPE EM?'

    It gets an awkward laugh from the guys on the bus, but I try to subtly call him out on it.

    Me: Hey Nollsy, what if that was your daughter and you heard someone say that?

    Nollsy: Yeh, but it's not my daughter!


    Next day on the bus again...


    Nollsy: (Announcing to our bus) I was sitting behind those girls on the bus trip home last night, I thought about smelling their hair!

    By that stage, I'd decided to be more forceful.

    Me: Shut the fuck up Nollsy you creepy cunt. Open your mouth again ya whinging cunt and you're fucking gone.

    The guys on the bus start laughing at him. Nollsy hasn't said anything since.
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