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    Got established lawn, got lawnmower... just add water...
    and something for the dogs to stand on, like a motorbike shed
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    my small front area of about 4x6 and verge of 1.5x6 had some grasses on them when i bought my house. But the gum tree at the front pretty much just sucked up all the water and kept my grass from growing.
    covered them using the cardboard and 2" of wood chip mulch 6 years ago.... only had sporadic growth of some crab grass here and there.... saved a lot of water too.

    it has been 3 years since the last top up, so now I am getting some shallow growing weeds growing during spring.

    Should be planting some more low growing natives by the verge

    Only downside is I get idiot neighbours who parks on my verge or stupid kids riding their monkey bikes doing burn outs on the mulch leaving messy tire marks and mulches everywhere.

    oh and stupid gumtree leafs and barks everywhere....
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    Nice. I've got one or two 6m lengths of 25mm pressure pipe and a bag of 25mm PVC fittings you can have if you like. I'm done with all of the 25mm work at my place. Any repairs or changes I might need to do would be on the 20mm stuff not the trunklines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okitoki View Post
    my small front area of about 4x6 and verge of 1.5x6 had some grasses on them when i bought my house. But the gum tree at the front pretty much just sucked up all the water and kept my grass from growing.
    covered them using the cardboard and 2" of wood chip mulch 6 years ago.... only had sporadic growth of some crab grass here and there.... saved a lot of water too.

    it has been 3 years since the last top up, so now I am getting some shallow growing weeds growing during spring.

    Should be planting some more low growing natives by the verge

    Only downside is I get idiot neighbours who parks on my verge or stupid kids riding their monkey bikes doing burn outs on the mulch leaving messy tire marks and mulches everywhere.

    oh and stupid gumtree leafs and barks everywhere....
    I'd start with a "fuck off and park somewhere else" sign, then a stern word, if that fails, some 3" star pickets cut at 45 degrees to hold any tyres dumb enough to park there again. I'm not sure if all councils are the same but in mine you can say who parks on your verge. If they don't listen to reason you can report them to the council and have them towed. I prefer talking to people but at least there is a path of escalation available.
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    yeah, done that a few times, with most being ok to move (lots of asian student renters in my area)... only once I had difficulty to deal was with a bogan prick who thought his lack of dick size must be compensated by a bigger ute;
    And most kids on bikes around here are "locals"; so last thing I need is to set up speed traps only to have their whole family and relatives come knocking on my door....
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    Growing the lawn is the easy part. boeman has a teenage type dog I think where everything is fun. Where does that wintergreen runner come from? Might have a little dig and chew to find out.

    The lawn rehab might be easier temp fencing strips a couple of metres wide and letting the dog into the new lawn area during training exercises. Especially the one where there is something more interesting presented than digging or eating the new lawn. Distraction.

    It certainly depends on the dog's temperament but I've never had much success with big active dogs on lawns so always fenced garden beds. Fenced lawns were a special area that the dog could play in supervised. Dogs tend to get into a habit of going from a to b the same way in a yard. Crisscrossing worn trenches. Playing out the back with the current dog he'll do a ballistic loop diagonally across the run. Massive sand berm around the back dunny.

    Yeah, some area of brickpave near the back of the house and progressively rehab the garden. Lawn or natives, fence them until they are well established.

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    Young dog, reticulation, lawn ... hahahhhhaaaaahaaaa
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    I have two dogs. One is 30kg the other if 67kg. They donít spend all day outside but they do run amok out there for at least two hours a day. My Village Green turf handles it really well. They no better than to dig. They even know to go down the side to their dog run to piss and shit on the wood chips instead of the turf and they arenít allowed in the garden beds.

    The dogs actually de-thatch the turf for me with their spastic running.

    A good fast growing grass (not buffalo) would be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticEnd View Post
    I'd start with a "fuck off and park somewhere else" sign, then a stern word, if that fails, some 3" star pickets cut at 45 degrees to hold any tyres dumb enough to park there again. I'm not sure if all councils are the same but in mine you can say who parks on your verge. If they don't listen to reason you can report them to the council and have them towed. I prefer talking to people but at least there is a path of escalation available.
    Or a sign saying "Tyre let-down area. Anyone parking in this private parking area accepts that all air will be removed from tyres."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticEnd View Post
    I have two dogs. One is 30kg the other if 67kg. They donít spend all day outside but they do run amok out there for at least two hours a day. My Village Green turf handles it really well. They no better than to dig. They even know to go down the side to their dog run to piss and shit on the wood chips instead of the turf and they arenít allowed in the garden beds.

    The dogs actually de-thatch the turf for me with their spastic running.

    A good fast growing grass (not buffalo) would be fine.
    The only damage my dogs do is they are both creatures of habit and run the same path all the time. No digging or chewing which is lucky. If the younger one werent so active I would have already subdivided just so I didn't have to care for the block as much.

    Wifes latest thought is spend some money on a square of new lawn and retic in the middle, then mulch and natives around the perimeter.

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    different viewpoint :

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    I can subdivide but sitting on it for a while.
    Quote Originally Posted by boeman View Post
    If the younger one werent so active I would have already subdivided just so I didn't have to care for the block as much.
    theres your answer, when are you going to realistically sell the block? you should be looking to maximise your return on the subdivision cause you will only get one go at it, not worry about the dogs, they'll adapt . when you sell you will have to fence it and clear anything on it, and level it. like trees, retic, lawn making time expense and wasting the effort of whatever you do to it now.

    if its already pegged out fence it off and leave the further est panel from the house out and brickpave everything your side side of it ( cleans the dog feet before coming inside ). leave a square other end unpaved for them to crap in and throw some fake lawn off cuts down for them to sit on.

    and... you can drop the block on the market whenever you pick the time is right but they can still walk around on it for the time being.

    you will all have to adapt sooner or later so may as well start now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wahoo View Post
    Or a sign saying "Tyre let-down area. Anyone parking in this private parking area accepts that all air will be removed from tyres."
    Actually; is the verge considered as private property where people can not park on it without permission?

    At first I was sure it is private, but now not too sure....
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    At first I was sure it is private, but now not too sure....[/QUOTE]
    There is certainly confusion and many property owners are fined https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/verge...-ng-b88454726z

    Worth checking the shire webpage as each Shire is different.
    For example Vic Park states the property owner can decide who parks on their verge near their property. https://www.victoriapark.wa.gov.au/A.../Verge-parking

    A phonecall or visit to your Shire giving the exact location will give you confidence.
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    For retic I found these guys pretty good: www.perthirrigation.com.au. Better range and prices than big, non-specialised, monopoly warehouses. You can probably find something comparable closer to you though.

    For fertilisers, get the Lawnporn stuff from Mitre 10 or Stratco (Stracto = cheaper, and have the Launch+ in stock for lawn repair/reboot). I'm using it on my lawn now after recently switching from rotary to cylinder and almost scalping it, even on the highest setting (oops....). It's coming back really nice though.

    Agree with agrid though, Roundup is the shit, if you end up deciding to nuke the lot. Do it twice two weeks apart and revel in all kinds of brown before mulching and replanting, Just keep the dogs off it for a while after application. If truly worried about poisons, plastic can do it, or if you have side access just go hire a mini-excavator and go wild. Forget digging it out manually, nobody has time for that
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    My advice would be to choose what you plant wisely. We did exactly this, years ago and ended up with a native jungle! It all got waaaay bigger than we ever anticipated 😬
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