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    Cool story bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanoceros View Post
    I must’ve got a good one..
    I've had three. Two of them I flogged, abused, mistreated, and neglected. Hundreds of hours of single track enduro in the mountains, drownings, crashes, kart track supermoto action, rev limiter bouncing, highsides, trees, rocks, and even dropped off a small bridge at one point. They are still among the most reliable bikes I've had and are hands down they easiest to maintain (RFS engine is a peach and designed with ease of maintenance in mind). I'd be reluctant to buy anything else if I were looking at an enduro or motard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goliath View Post
    There is also the open secret called "designed/planned obsolescense". Products are designed with specific faults so they don't last forever and the customer has to buy something new. Designing the "life expectancy" of a product is one of the key factors in product development these days.
    Yes, and use your customer base as beta testers. Happens all over the place.

    I'm looking at you Apple! Butterfly keyboard sounds nice until a nanoparticle gets under the spacebar.
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    There is also the fine print.
    Maximum loading.
    “I’m a skinny cunt. I never have to worry about that.”
    Surprisingly when I go one a tour I can actually easily exceed that limit.
    Add a pillion and don’t look at the placard.
    I haven’t had an Adventure I have toured on, always Sports oriented, and the sportier they get the less they like moving house on them.

    Except Honda’s. I broke frames, me and my lunch box.
    Add their other bullshit and I nominate Honda.

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    not to mention all the electrical issues they had until jap parts where sourced, the great oil ring saga of a few years ago, and when you paid 15k for a 300 2 stroke it leaked oil just to name a few

    being a parts supplier i sell more KTM parts than anything else, could be because there is no doubt alot more out there but just about every mechanic i talk to says the same thing.

    they have lifted there game in recent years, but it has been shocking and expensive. KTM today ATM tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMeanie View Post
    I nominate Honda.
    mmm the most reliable bike on the planet haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillz View Post
    mmm the most reliable bike on the planet haha
    I'm a big fan of the big H but I had to: https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/201...nda-sp2-crash/
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    that is true.. they did totally make an abortion on that one. but most honda's if you dont run them out of oil they will go for over 20 years

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    Confuzzled by the Honda comment. Sure, they are touted as being boring, but that doesn't mean they're unreliable (the latter of which is the topic of this thread) - as said, they're pretty much one of the most reliable. I never quite got the boring label - it's like something gets labelled and it sticks. I enjoyed my 07 CBR6 - it had +2 on the rear and was fun, likely cos it was a little less refined that my gixx (and by less refined I mean it had a bit of a snatchy throttle you had to take into account [I took the -1 off the front which made it a little better]). It was also pretty easy to throw around and be confident on it. Call me boring, but I like predictability and reliability in a bike - it's why I tracked the bike I was most comfortable on - because it is confidence inspiring. Riding around issues (often labelled as 'character') isn't my preferred option.

    Oh, and INB4 Ducati (but that's easier to prove, whereas 'boring' is a more subjective judgement).
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    Never found Honda to be what most would call boring at all having said that I’m an amateur when it comes road bikes.
    I find Honda’s to be well built and dam reliable I couldn’t blow my old cr250 no matter how hard I tried the XR 600Xl 250 & 600 where the same lol as for my KTM 530 I found that reliable as well never had an issue with and rode that pretty dam hard like all bikes
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    530 was one of the worst, that was one of the models that came from the factory with dodgy oil rings.. i couldn't keep enough stock to supply the demand for replacements. the 08 was a lemon 09/11 where somewhat improved

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    I must’ve got a good one then hillz. I thrashed it hard from new.
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    One (or a few) person on the internet has a problem with a bike and posts in a forum = "OMG THE NEW BIKE IS FUCKED AND THE OLD ONE FROM (pre internet forum posts) IS WAY BETTER!!!!@121!!"
    “Crashing is shit for you, shit for the bike, shit for the mechanics and shit for the set-up,” Checa told me a while back. “It’s a signal that you are heading in the wrong direction. You want to win but crashing is the opposite. It’s like being in France when you want to go to England and when you crash you go to Spain. That way you’ll never get to England!” -- Carlos Checa

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    One bad experience and they're all tarred with the same brush (granted, it was a Buell though):
    Belt drives

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    Yeah Honda will forever and always be tarred as boring when it comes to street bikes.

    They had a flash of brilliance with the original Fireblade, but everyone kept dying on it so they went sensible. Much like their 3 wheeler farm bike which erased whole families in a single roll over. Their modus operandi now is to build bikes that anyone can ride. What you end up with is a bike that is kinda good at going fast, handles kinda good, stops kinda good and overall is kinda good. But it does nothing brilliantly, no one is waiting at the dealer's door going, "oh wow look there's a new Fireblade". I jump on a Fireblade and twist the throttle to the stop and it's all a bit... Meh. And leaves me wanting to double check that it is intact a 1000cc bike and not a 600cc engine in there. Jump on the 600 and it's much the same, 1/2 the time I think it's a LAMS bike. Very uninspiring in the trim they roll off the showroom floor in.
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    36 posts and no Hyosung?
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    I wonder if that’s because of shame? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by datsikk View Post
    Its possible that a design was agreed to, the parts tested but then the bean counters came along and demanded changes. So "small" changes were made but then the frame was not retested. Voila, cracked frames!

    Maybe something as simple as the rubber used to isolate vibrations was changed (if its used anywhere? I can only think of the cush rubber) changing that would might change the natural frequency/amplitude of cyclic stress of a part.

    changing that may reduce the number of stress cycles the frame can withstand.
    Yep I reckon it’s a general trend in cars and bikes. My theory is that most cars and bikes peaked in quality in the mid 90s to 2000s and they’ve been going downhill since. Too much plastic, too many computers and overengineering is a thing of the past. Mercedes lost the plot with the W210 series, Mitsubishi lost the plot after the most tritons ended in 2007.
    And as far as I’m convinced the best beemer ever built was the 16v k100rs that finished in 1992 and they’ve been going downhill ever since. Up until that point they were built to be rebuildsble, but now bikes are like bic razors. Disposable.
    Funny thing is that Kawasaki realised they’d made a marketing error in the mid 90s because no one was buying new bikes. Why? Because the older keakas were fucking bulletproof and built to last and built to be rebuildable. So what did Kawasaki do? Putvthevprice of parts through the roof so it was no longer worth your while to rebuild the old ones. Nice one guys
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    Honda VFR400. Fuck that bike.
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