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    Well another day of playing. So tried a few things. The blue LED flashes all the time even when it is disarmed? The bike wont start unless I remove the Pink and Grey wires (back to factory). If the Alarm is Armed and I set it off its makes a noise and tells remote but remote is still green (no yellow or red blacklight) All the alarm features are working. Hornet has offered to come over and have a look with me so hopefully we can sort it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillSwitch View Post
    Arrr ok I have both Black wires earthed. I will pull off the black wire and see how it goes tomorrow morning. Ill PM you details. Cheers.
    I have found the black wires are earth, however I have joined them together and earthed them to the bike not the battery.

    Make sure you have connected the pink and grey in the correct order otherwise it will not work.

    Blue is connected to the starter wire after it comes out of your right hand switch cluster(not sure for R6) but for my ninja 250 it was the black red.

    Brown wire goes to your wire/s that power up the fuse box and CDI/IC Igniter.

    I will have a look at schematics for you and post again.

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    I have got the pink and grey hooked up correctly I am 99% sure. I think the R1 and R6 have the same colour codes for factory wiring because from the R6 factory wiring diagram also came up with the Red with Black strip wire. Pic Attached.

    So does the LED flash all the time for you guys? Or is it just mine?
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    Ha... um... couldn't find a place I liked it mounted so I didn't put the LED on, either.

    Have you got a test light?

    Just make 100% sure that the pink and grey are the right way. The only other two you need to worry about are power and ground. Disconnect the brown, black and blue and see if you can get it to work. After that then go and mess with the remote start.
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    The LED flash is the least of your problems as it has a dedicated connector.

    I am looking at the schematics and it appears that the red/black wire as it comes out of the the right hand switch cluster is the one for your pink and grey. The Blue/white is for your blue wire.

    Still looking at the schematics.

    Have you a current tester (no not multimeter)?

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    I know LED is not important just trying to see if the unit it self might be faulty.

    The Blue/White is the Start Button Switch wire to the Starting Circuit cut off relay on my schematics. I am using the killswitch wire same as what Hornet did. This will kill Ignition not only start.

    I only have a multimeter.

    Ok currently this is what is currently setup. (as per previous post)

    This is for 2004 R6 I have wired in.
    Red - Battery +
    Black GRN Wire - Battery -
    Pink - Cut Killswitch Wire (to Killswitch) - Red with Black Strip
    Grey - Cut Killswitch Wire (to Module) - Red with Black Strip
    Yellows - Turn signals Dark Green - Brown near tail end.

    I haven't hooked up these:
    Brown - Ignition Relay (Is hot with 12v when remote start is selected) So this must be for powering the Ignition system. I dont know if it tells the Alarm that the bike is on or not to stop the auto arming?
    Blue - Starter Relay (Is hot to start Motor)
    Black from Loom - Ground

    schematics is in the factory manual here. http://www.r6messagenet.com/forums/p...ice_manual.pdf

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    You could possible switch the pink and grey to the red/white however since you have done the chop already you need to work with that. My brain hurts with the schematics so will have alook tomorrow.

    Matso

    I am assuming you did the light test on the cutoff switch wires before the chop.

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    Looks right.
    The number 44 refers to the kill switch and the wire looks to be the red with black.

    AFAIK you can use a multimeter to test for power on a curcuit.

    This is a strange one. I'll swing by tomorrow after work and take a look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillSwitch View Post
    I know LED is not important just trying to see if the unit it self might be faulty.

    The Blue/White is the Start Button Switch wire to the Starting Circuit cut off relay on my schematics. I am using the killswitch wire same as what Hornet did. This will kill Ignition not only start.

    I only have a multimeter.

    Ok currently this is what is currently setup. (as per previous post)

    This is for 2004 R6 I have wired in.
    Red - Battery +
    Black GRN Wire - Battery -
    Pink - Cut Killswitch Wire (to Killswitch) - Red with Black Strip
    Grey - Cut Killswitch Wire (to Module) - Red with Black Strip
    Yellows - Turn signals Dark Green - Brown near tail end.

    I haven't hooked up these:
    Brown - Ignition Relay (Is hot with 12v when remote start is selected) So this must be for powering the Ignition system. I dont know if it tells the Alarm that the bike is on or not to stop the auto arming?
    Blue - Starter Relay (Is hot to start Motor)
    Black from Loom - Ground

    schematics is in the factory manual here. http://www.r6messagenet.com/forums/p...ice_manual.pdf
    Need to ground this as well (words in red).

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    I haven't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matso View Post
    Need to ground this as well (words in red).
    Yeah I did ground that. But it wasnt working. And Hornet said not the ground it so i took it off and still not working. haha. Ill see if Hornet and I can work it out tomorrow night.

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    I thought the extra black was an over kill as an extra earth but I guess if they have it there then they have it there for a reason so thats why I suggested it. If it works without it then no harm.

    When you say not working you mean no turning over of the engine. If it is this then I would suggest reversing the pink/grey.

    But seeing that Hornet is able to make it to your place tomorrow then good luck.

    Matso

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    I'd highly recommend using both earths. It's a safety thing, and it is used commonly on car immobilisers as well. It's there so if one earth fails, there is still an earth the unit can seek, and won't kill your ignition and immobilise the bike whilst you are on your ear
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    So Hornet came around tonight. (Thanks mate) We figured it out after we plugged his in and had a play around. The Alarm Harness... the plug between the loom and the alarm had the wrong wires in the wrong areas. Like Pink to Blue and Blue to Pink. Just glad it didnt blow anything. Anyway the bike now starts.

    The alarm doesn't kill the ignition. Cut the circuit (Pink and Grey) when armed. Does yours work Hornet? Also the LED is always flashing. Armed or Disarmed. It does pause while I hit arm or disarm but keeps flashing away. I know I know but I want to get it working properly. haha

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    Good to hear KillSwitch.

    When you get the LED situation sorted post up the wiring diagram for the rest of the R6 owners.

    IIRC xsnoiz said it lets you key start the bike then after a time if you do not disarm it then it cuts the engine.

    Matso

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    It kills mine after about 10 seconds. Arm it, start your bike in silent mode (just so you don't have your alarm screaming at you and the neighbours) and see if it kills it. It bloody well should!
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    Ok ill give it a go tonight. Sooooo close. Just need to sort this LED. haha.

    Then I will start with the Brown wire to see if the alarm knows the bike is on and wont rearm. haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillSwitch View Post
    Ok ill give it a go tonight. Sooooo close. Just need to sort this LED. haha.

    Then I will start with the Brown wire to see if the alarm knows the bike is on and wont rearm. haha.
    I have borrowed from Dubs the newer SPY1 alarm that has the LED, plugged it into my bike and it flashes when it is armed and it stops when it is unarmed.

    I would not think this would be any different for the SPY2 alarm.

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    The LED flashes when armed but also has certain flashing sequences if it's been set off or whatever.

    I wouldn't think that the wires being incorrect in the harness would cause the actual alarm any problems but it's possible that sending 12V along a wire that shouldn't be powered has shorted something. Everything you had wired up looked fine to me so it's just a matter of making sure the right wires in the harness are going to the right wires in the alarm. Pain in the arse, though.

    Anyone else buying one would do well to check that the wires match up from alarm to harness.
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    With the ignition cut done, the alarm should kill the ignition. The timer function I mentioned earlier was for the remote start - the bike will run for 10 minutes started remotely. If the key is used without disarming first, the motor shouldn't start, and the alarm should trigger. If you don't get it sorted before the MAD ride, let me know, and I'll show you through the functions on mine.
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